Season one · Thursday 11 June 2026 · 51 minutes
How I Planted False Memories of a Crime That Never Happened
Julia Shaw on false memory, green crime, and why AI is both the problem and the solution.
Julia Shaw once implanted a false memory of a violent crime in a volunteer's mind using three conversations and a few leading questions. The volunteer described it in vivid detail three weeks later. That was her PhD. Now she says we have built the same machine and put it in everyone's pocket.
Shaw is a criminal psychologist whose research is used by police forces, war crimes investigators, and the International Criminal Court. She founded an AI reporting tool now used by the Bar Council. She wrote a book applying true crime storytelling to environmental destruction. And she is about to spend a summer inside an AI governance residency asking how these systems get built safely.
This conversation moves across a lot of ground and earns all of it. The false memory implantation study is the sharpest opening this show has had. The argument that AI hallucinates for the same reason humans confabulate is genuinely clarifying. The bit where Shaw explains why London's air is the cleanest it has been in centuries, and why no one knows, is the kind of thing that makes you want to look it up the moment the episode ends. And her case for optimism, that despondency is the one emotional response that achieves nothing and that she personally knows the people building these tools, is harder to argue with than you might expect.
Chapters
- 00:00Opening: the false memory machine in your pocket
- 00:55Intro: criminal psychologist, memory scientist, green crime author
- 01:50The implantation study
- 04:00Why our brains prefer stories to accuracy
- 06:30Memory, courtrooms, and the cognitive interview
- 08:15AI hallucinations and human confabulation
- 09:35AI as the ultimate false memory machine
- 11:30Witness statements and AI smoothing
- 13:00The allergic reaction to AI content
- 16:30The positive case: AI as therapist at 3am
- 18:30Talk to Spot: the chatbot that replaced the cognitive interview
- 23:15Why Shaw stays optimistic
- 25:00Meta, frat boys, and why AI founders are different
- 28:50Aphantasia: Shaw can't picture anything
- 31:00Memory, brands, and the aftermath economy
- 35:00Green crime: true crime storytelling for the planet
- 38:00The categorisation problem: "it's about the trees, though"
- 41:00London's air and the victories we forget
- 43:30Space satellites and environmental crime
- 47:55What's next: AI governance and the residency

